Genealogical postings about the family of Davidson McGuire & Margaret Kelley: ancestors and descendants, drunkards and teetotalers, scoundrels and saints
Thursday, July 15, 2010
More on Charles McGuire
Monday, July 12, 2010
John L's devilish advocate
"It certainly *could* be true. But really it is just supposition unless you find a document saying he was disabled."
"It's possible that he was in another unit before that one. I've seen that before. In one case, the man was discharged for a medical reason, then rejoined later with another unit. I believe I've also seen where a man just changed units. Technically, just because you can't find evidence of him being in another unit, it doesn't mean that he wasn't."
"But assume he joined for the first time in 1863. There might be several reasons for this. I imagine the pressure to join wasn't as strong early in the war, as it was later when the South wasn't doing so well. Towards the end, they were taking really young men and really old ones (and probably ones who were infirm, too)."
"'He had a family' wasn't a concern. Almost everybody who went to war from the South (and almost all of them did) had a family. I'm not sure how in the world they justified running off and leaving their families, but they did."
"Maybe he was a pacifist? (Unlikely.) Maybe he was an anti-secessionist or a loyalist? (Also unlikely, but you never know.) Maybe he had some ailment that prevented him from joining earlier? Maybe he didn't want to join, but was drafted? (They started a draft in 1862.)"
Source: "Historical Times Encyclopedia of the Civil War" Edited by Patricia L. Faust
"After looking at his brothers, I thought maybe he joined after his brother Charles died in the war. But I have that date as May 1863, and John joined Feb 1, 1863. But Charles was also with Co C in the 18th, and also in Chattanooga. I can't find his service cards, so I'm not sure if he was also a guard with the Hospital or not. (John McGuire's are filed under John S McGann!)"
Sunday, July 11, 2010
About Leeds, AL
This website has concise information about Leeds:
http://www.usacitiesonline.com/alcountyleeds.htm
Leeds location: in central Alabama about 18 miles east of Birmingham. Other nearby communities include Moody, Trussville, Irondale, Grayson Valley, Chalkville, Center Point, Branchville and Margaret.
History
Leeds began as a small farming settlement around 1828 when the Cedar Grove Post Office was opened. Once the county line of Shelby and Jefferson Counties was changed, a new post office opened in 1869 and was called Oakridge. Later, in 1884, the Leeds post office was opened. Leeds was incorporated as a town in 1887. It was named for the city of Leeds in England. Once the railroad came into town, more growth occurred. In 1906, the Standard Portland Cement Co was opened further aiding the growth in the area.
Leeds is one of two cities in the State of Alabama that is located in 3 counties - Shelby, Jefferson and St. Clair Counties. The predominant land area of Leeds is in Jefferson County. St. Clair County is the next largest with Shelby County having the smallest amount of land area in that county. The other city is Waverly.
Leeds, Alabama is a Tree City USA City
Saturday, July 10, 2010
Was John L. McGuire disabled?
Monday, July 5, 2010
The life of Charles McGuire
http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/Image.asp?PatentDocClassCode=MW&Accession=0869%2D139&Format=SmallGIF&Page=1&Index=4&QryID=51988%2E36
"I found Charles McGuire as a Private in the 5th Alabama Infantry Company F when he first enlisted in the Confederate Army. This is the web site:
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/Personz_Detail.cfm
Later, members of this Company may have joined the 18th Alabama Regiment C. He is listed as being a member of this unit at the the following web site:
http://www.archives.state.al.un/civilwar/soldier.cfm?id=115206
(Note: when I checked those URLs today, the links didn't work. I'll check with Barbara and see if we can find the current, correct links.)
Charles died in a Confederate hospital in Chattanooga, Tennessee. I have been able to narrow down the information to MY Charles due to a private journal written by a nurse at that hospital. She recorded that Charles McGuire of the 18th Alabama Regiment C died today (May 24, 1863). His wife lives in St. Clair County, Alabama..."
By the way, if you search microfilm of the general index cards or the enlistment papers, you will be disappointed. Only the front page of Charles' paperwork is recorded. I looked forwards and backward to be sure his papers were not mixed in with another McGuire. No such luck...Happy hunting."
http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?strength::mcguire::3922.html
Sunday, July 4, 2010
My most often cited sources
http://files.usgwarchives.net/al/shelby/bibles/bb9.txt
• The records of the Mt.Hebron Baptist Church at Samford University.
• Various documents at the Shelby County Historical Society. Their webpage is here:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~alshelby/shelby1.html
On the webpage you'll find many searchable databases such as marriage indexes, court cases, mortality schedules, and so on. You'll also find a gazillion indexes to wills, guardianship papers, censuses.
• The federal and state censuses and the mortality schedules at Ancestry.com. Still the best genealogy website as far as I am concerned.
• The message boards at Genforum.com, Rootsweb.com, and Ancestry.com. I have found so many leads and broken through so many walls there. For example, I found the husband of Susan McKinney, niece of Britta Ann Green, by reading the Lemley message board at Rootsweb.com. His middle name was Pinkney; all I knew was James P. Lemley. But he was called "Pink," so I was able to find him in several other censuses.