It's wonderful that many people have posted family trees for Timothy McGuire, born abt 1822 in AL, married to Elizabeth, lived in Jefferson, Shelby, and St. Clair Counties, AL. The bad news is that there's confusion about him, his wife Elizabeth's and his parentage. There were SO MANY TImothy McGuires in AL! I am hoping to open up discussion and maybe clear up some of my own confusion. Comments and corrections welcome!
"Our" Timothy McGuire was a farmer born about 1822 in Alabama. He married Elizabeth, born abt 1828 in AL or GA, by October 1849, when the first of their children, William H., was born. Other children, all born AL, include (forgive the initials if incorrect): Sarah E., Margaret L, Isaac W., Martha J., Mary L., T. Uzebba (Zebba), Timothy W., George T., and Eliza D. We know these facts are true because they are pretty consistent throughout the censuses.
Our Timothy did not move to MO. The Timothy who moved to MO was the son of Timothy McGuire, Jr., and Mary Polly McGuire. He married Salina Miller and Lydia Shoemaker and died in MO. He was born abt 1821 in AL and died 19 September 1874. Our Timothy stayed in AL his whole life.
Here's where our Timothy is living in each census. We know this is the right Timothy because the names of the children are consistent:
In the 1850 US Census for AL, Timothy Mc Guire is 25, living in Jefferson County.
In the 1860 US Census for AL, Ann (listed as Ann, reads as Tim) McGuire is 28, living in Shelby County.
In the 1870 US Census for AL, T. McGuire is in Twp 17, Range 1 East, Cedar Grove P.O., Jefferson County.
In the 1880 US Census for AL, Tim McGuire is 58, a farmer, living in St. Clair County.
In the 1900 US Census for AL, T. M. McGuire lives with his wife Louisa, SIL and daughter Zebba Gallups in Harpersville, Shelby County, AL. 1900 is the last US Census in which he is recorded.
Part Two
"Our" Timothy McGuire was a farmer born about 1822 in Alabama. He married Elizabeth, born abt 1828 in AL or GA, by October 1849, when the first of their children, William H., was born. Other children, all born AL, include (forgive the initials if incorrect): Sarah E., Margaret L, Isaac W., Martha J., Mary L., T. Uzebba (Zebba), Timothy W., George T., and Eliza D. We know these facts are true because they are pretty consistent throughout the censuses.
Our Timothy did not move to MO. The Timothy who moved to MO was the son of Timothy McGuire, Jr., and Mary Polly McGuire. He married Salina Miller and Lydia Shoemaker and died in MO. He was born abt 1821 in AL and died 19 September 1874. Our Timothy stayed in AL his whole life.
Here's where our Timothy is living in each census. We know this is the right Timothy because the names of the children are consistent:
In the 1850 US Census for AL, Timothy Mc Guire is 25, living in Jefferson County.
In the 1860 US Census for AL, Ann (listed as Ann, reads as Tim) McGuire is 28, living in Shelby County.
In the 1870 US Census for AL, T. McGuire is in Twp 17, Range 1 East, Cedar Grove P.O., Jefferson County.
In the 1880 US Census for AL, Tim McGuire is 58, a farmer, living in St. Clair County.
In the 1900 US Census for AL, T. M. McGuire lives with his wife Louisa, SIL and daughter Zebba Gallups in Harpersville, Shelby County, AL. 1900 is the last US Census in which he is recorded.
Part Two
There were many Timothy McGuires in AL. The Timothy McGuire discussed here was born 1822 - 1825 in AL. He married Elizabeth abt 1848/by October 1849. The US Censuses 1850 - 1900 prove that he lived in Jefferson/Shelby/St. Clair Counties all his life. Who were his parents?
My candidates for his father is Davidson McGuire. And there's lots of proof.
First of all, in 1830, DM has one male aged 5 - 10 in the 1830 US Census for AL, Shelby County (TM would have been 5 - 8). In the 1840 US Census for AL in Jefferson County, there are three males 10 - 15 (Timothy would have been 15 - 18). In the 1850 US Census for AL, Timothy McGuire aged 25 is just a few doors away from Davidson McGuire in Jefferson County. As mentioned, TM's children are consistent from census to census. TM and his family never move more than a county away.
Next are the will/probate proofs. An excerpt from the partial settlement of Davidson McGuire's will of 1867 on file Jefferson County Courthouse:
"The liens and distributees of said Davidson McGuire deceased are as follows to wit: Timothy McGuire of full age and resides in St. Clair County of this State..."
Finally, in 1884 a McLaughlin brother-in-law wanted to buy shares of Davidson's land that were distributed to his (DM's) heirs. This action produced dozens of documents, among which are several affadavits affirming that Timothy McGuire of St. Clair County and over 21 years of age was a son of Davidson McGuire. These are on file at the Jefferson County Courthouse.
There ARE other Timothy McGuires born AL, even in Shelby County, but none but the guy above married to Elizabeth, living in Shelby/St. Clair/Jefferson County, with the same kids over and over. So it's more than a theory: the Timothy McGuire mentioned in these posts is without doubt the son of Davidson McGuire. He was most likely married to Elizabeth Wilson.
However, there is one mystery that remains unsolved. Timothy McGuire's birthdate is usually listed as Jan 1822. The Charles Kelley family bible says that Margaret Kelley married Davidson McGuire in DECEMBER 1822. So was Margaret Timothy's mother, as is usually assumed? Margaret, born 1808 by the same bible, would have been 14 at the time. A shotgun wedding? A quickie wedding to provide childcare? We may never know.
My candidates for his father is Davidson McGuire. And there's lots of proof.
First of all, in 1830, DM has one male aged 5 - 10 in the 1830 US Census for AL, Shelby County (TM would have been 5 - 8). In the 1840 US Census for AL in Jefferson County, there are three males 10 - 15 (Timothy would have been 15 - 18). In the 1850 US Census for AL, Timothy McGuire aged 25 is just a few doors away from Davidson McGuire in Jefferson County. As mentioned, TM's children are consistent from census to census. TM and his family never move more than a county away.
Next are the will/probate proofs. An excerpt from the partial settlement of Davidson McGuire's will of 1867 on file Jefferson County Courthouse:
"The liens and distributees of said Davidson McGuire deceased are as follows to wit: Timothy McGuire of full age and resides in St. Clair County of this State..."
Finally, in 1884 a McLaughlin brother-in-law wanted to buy shares of Davidson's land that were distributed to his (DM's) heirs. This action produced dozens of documents, among which are several affadavits affirming that Timothy McGuire of St. Clair County and over 21 years of age was a son of Davidson McGuire. These are on file at the Jefferson County Courthouse.
There ARE other Timothy McGuires born AL, even in Shelby County, but none but the guy above married to Elizabeth, living in Shelby/St. Clair/Jefferson County, with the same kids over and over. So it's more than a theory: the Timothy McGuire mentioned in these posts is without doubt the son of Davidson McGuire. He was most likely married to Elizabeth Wilson.
However, there is one mystery that remains unsolved. Timothy McGuire's birthdate is usually listed as Jan 1822. The Charles Kelley family bible says that Margaret Kelley married Davidson McGuire in DECEMBER 1822. So was Margaret Timothy's mother, as is usually assumed? Margaret, born 1808 by the same bible, would have been 14 at the time. A shotgun wedding? A quickie wedding to provide childcare? We may never know.
Part Three
One more reason to think that Timothy McGuire is the son of Davidson, and maybe the son of Margaret. Names in the McGuire family occur generation after generation. Timothy had a daughter named Margaret.
There. I'm done with these essays on Timothy McGuire.
For now.
There. I'm done with these essays on Timothy McGuire.
For now.
This material was originally posted on the McGuire forums at Ancestry.com and Genforum.com. Copyright May 2010 by ALRoots.
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